Close Menu
TechCentralTechCentral

    Subscribe to the newsletter

    Get the best South African technology news and analysis delivered to your e-mail inbox every morning.

    Facebook X (Twitter) YouTube LinkedIn
    WhatsApp Facebook X (Twitter) LinkedIn YouTube
    TechCentralTechCentral
    • News
      Cell C launches 5G

      Cell C launches 5G

      21 August 2026
      MVNOs are doing the heavy lifting at Cell C - Jorges Mendes

      MVNOs are doing the heavy lifting at Cell C

      21 August 2026
      Hot rand is cold comfort for tech buyers

      Hot rand is cold comfort for tech buyers

      21 August 2026
      Joburg says it has bought its way out of an Eskom blackout

      Joburg says it has bought its way out of an Eskom blackout

      21 August 2026
      Management consulting as we know it is over

      Management consulting as we know it is over

      21 August 2026
    • World
      Russia building its own Starlink - and faster than expected - Vadym Skibitskyi

      Russia building its own Starlink – and faster than expected

      11 August 2026
      Meta AI will now tell parents if their teen is in crisis

      Meta AI will now tell parents if their teen is in crisis

      17 July 2026
      IBM shares crash 25% as AI upends software spending - Arvind Krishna

      IBM shares crash 25% as AI upends software spending

      15 July 2026
      Jony Ive's first OpenAI device: an AI smart speaker - Jony Ive and Sam Altman

      Jony Ive’s first OpenAI device: an AI smart speaker

      15 July 2026
      Stripe, Advent in talks to buy PayPal for $53-billion

      Stripe, Advent in talks to buy PayPal for $53-billion

      15 July 2026
    • In-depth
      Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis. Image: John Sears

      The plan to stop AI from breaking the world

      16 July 2026
      The internet has a Strait of Hormuz problem

      The internet has a Strait of Hormuz problem

      15 July 2026
      AI boom sparks rally, frenzy and fear

      AI boom sparks rally, frenzy and fear

      11 June 2026
      Every plug-in hybrid on sale in South Africa, ranked by price - Lamborghini Temerario

      Every plug-in hybrid on sale in South Africa, ranked by price

      7 June 2026
      What Wi-Fi 8 will mean for wireless networks

      What Wi-Fi 8 will mean for wireless networks

      1 June 2026
    • TCS
      Meet the CIO | Discovery's Derek Wilcocks on AI, guardrails and growth

      Meet the CIO | Derek Wilcocks on how AI personalised Vitality

      13 August 2026
      TCS | Money just became native to the internet - Steven Boykey Sidley

      TCS | Money just became native to the internet – Steven Boykey Sidley

      12 August 2026
      TCS+ | Specops' Darren James on continuous trust in an AI world

      TCS+ | Specops’ Darren James on continuous trust in an AI world

      7 August 2026
      TCS+ | How AI is turning hardware into a subscription service - Shane van der Merwe Merchant West

      TCS+ | How AI is turning hardware into a subscription service

      6 August 2026
      TCS+ | Why South African workers must become supervisors of digital labour - Accelera Digital Group Cliff de Wit

      TCS+ | Why South African workers must become supervisors of digital labour

      31 July 2026
    • Opinion
      The author, Jannie van Zyl

      Selling vapour is corporate suicide in slow motion

      16 July 2026
      Brazil's online gambling crackdown is a lesson for South Africa

      How Amazon outmanoeuvred Starlink in South Africa

      15 July 2026
      The Popia problem with agentic AI - Herman Haasbroek

      The Popia problem with agentic AI

      14 July 2026
      The author, Fanie van Rooyen

      South Africa can still catch the AI wave – here’s how

      7 July 2026
      The author, Fanie van Rooyen

      The AI utopia South Africa can’t afford

      1 July 2026
    • Company Hubs
      • 1Stream
      • Africa Data Centres
      • AfriGIS
      • Altron Digital Business
      • Altron Document Solutions
      • Altron Group
      • Arctic Wolf
      • Ascent Technology
      • AvertITD
      • BBD
      • Braintree
      • CallMiner
      • CambriLearn
      • CM Telecom
      • Contactable
      • CYBER1 Solutions
      • Digicloud Africa
      • Digimune
      • Domains.co.za
      • ESET
      • Euphoria Telecom
      • HOSTAFRICA
      • Incredible Business
      • iONLINE
      • IQbusiness
      • Iris Network Systems
      • Kaspersky
      • LSD Open
      • Mitel
      • NEC XON
      • Netstar
      • Network Platforms
      • Next DLP
      • Ovations
      • Paracon
      • Paratus
      • Q-KON
      • SevenC
      • SkyWire
      • Solid8 Technologies
      • Telit Cinterion
      • Telviva
      • Tenable
      • Vertiv
      • Videri Digital
      • Vodacom Business
      • Vox
      • Wipro
      • Workday
      • XLink
    • Sections
      • AI and machine learning
      • Banking
      • Broadcasting and Media
      • Cloud services
      • Contact centres and CX
      • Cryptocurrencies
      • Education and skills
      • Electronics and hardware
      • Energy and sustainability
      • Enterprise software
      • Financial services
      • HealthTech
      • Information security
      • Internet and connectivity
      • Internet of Things
      • Investment
      • IT services
      • Lifestyle
      • Policy and regulation
      • Public sector
      • Retail and e-commerce
      • Satellite communications
      • Science
      • SMEs and start-ups
      • Social media
      • Talent and leadership
      • Telecoms
      • Watts & Wheels
    • Events
    • Advertise
    TechCentralTechCentral
    Home » In-depth » This is how they got your number

    This is how they got your number

    By Hanna Ziady15 February 2016
    Twitter LinkedIn Facebook WhatsApp Email Telegram Copy Link
    News Alerts
    WhatsApp

    call-centre-640

    The next time a call centre agent tells you they got your number from the “national consumer database”, ask to speak to their manager. Aside from the fact that no such list exists, the Protection of Personal Information Act (Popi) — which, in case you missed it, is law — holds any entity handling personal information responsible for how that information was obtained.

    So, how do companies get their data (and your number) in the first place? “It’s a grey area,” admits Warren Moss, chairman of the Direct Marketing Association of South Africa (DMASA). Most lead brokers have built up their data over many years and before there were any laws regulating the access and exchange of that data.

    Certain sections of Popi came into effect only in April 2014, while the office of the Information Regulator (to actually enforce the act) is still being established. Moss expects this to happen in the next few months, after which companies will have an 18- to 24-month grace period to be Popi compliant.

    “In the past, banks, insurers and cellphone companies would buy data from anyone. Now that there are laws governing the industry, they make sure they buy from reputable companies,” says Moss.

    DMASA has an accreditation called the Centres of Excellence, which audits the Popi compliance of list brokers and has 13 accredited brokers. Needless to say, lead brokering, or list brokering, is a perfectly legitimate business practice. Companies can either buy or rent lists from these brokers for their direct marketing campaigns.

    Blue Label Data Solutions, listed on DMASA’s Centres of Excellence list, is one such list broker. The company obtains its data in a variety of ways, according to Michael Campbell, investor and media relations executive. These include social media campaigns and opt-in competitions (such as Win a Scooter on Facebook); websites where you can register to receive loan offers (www.mobi-loans.co.za) or promotional deals (www.thinkmoney.co.za); credit bureau updates; public domain information; and using call centres to update existing consumer information.

    “If you register on a site like MoneyMavericks or SaveMoney, you can opt in to receiving electronic communication around promotions and products. Some of the [direct marketing] agencies also work with media owners and their databases to generate leads. The entity sending any communication must be the owner of the opted in client’s details,” notes Johan Barnard, King Price’s GM for e-business.

    “We’ve had instances in the past where we’ve cancelled agreements with marketing agencies for contravening existing legislation. Our agencies are all mandated by law to screen their databases against the national opt-out list,” he says.

    Administered by DMASA, the national opt-out database enables you to opt out of all direct marketing communication.

    “Any responsible marketer checks against this list. If you have been registered on the national opt-out list and you’re still receiving direct marketing calls, you should escalate that with the company concerned or contact DMASA via its website,” says Jaco Shutte, director of marketing services at TransUnion Analytic and Decisioning Solutions.

    Red flags

    That there was so little regulation governing the exchange of data in the past opened wide the doors to abuse. “A bank would literally give a list of numbers to a call centre manager on a memory stick, which was perfectly legal to do. But then that call centre manager gets fired and decides to sell the numbers he’s obtained to a list broker for R100 000 or more. And so the data gets traded and passed around,” DMASA’s Moss explains.

    Popi enforces strict rules around how data is processed, stored, protected and shared. Good marketing and data businesses go to great lengths to ensure that data is protected, for example, servers are encrypted, and USB and disk drives are disabled, says Schutte.

    A call centre agent phoning you from a non-financial services company should have only your name and ID number, adds Moss. If they have information about your income, who you bank with and what financial products you have, such information would have come from a credit bureau (if it was legally obtained) and in order to access credit-related bureau data they would need to be a member of the Credit Providers Association.

    You can also check whether the company contacting you is a member of DMASA. While there is no legal obligation to be a member, the association holds members to a Code of Practice, which complies with existing data privacy laws.

    “Consumers must stay vigilant when responding to direct marketing campaigns so as not to fall victim to phishing scams,” Schutte highlights.

    Creating jobs and profit

    Considering that most people I know don’t even take direct marketing calls (let alone make a purchasing decision off the back of them), the question arises: is the industry profitable?

    It’s a “purely mathematical play”, says Moss. “The average call centre agent costs a company about R25 000/month and can make roughly 1 600 calls a month. Let’s say the company is selling personal loans and makes R1 000 profit per personal loan sold. If the agent converts only 10% to 20% of those calls, that amounts to between 160 and 320 sales or between R160 000 and R320 000 a month — for [a] R25 000 [salary]. It’s hugely profitable.”

    According to Moss, the direct marketing industry directly employs around 150 000 people. It also arguably helps to grow small businesses and connect customers with value-added services. “Through direct marketing, businesses are able to offer great deals to customers who not only need them, but who also might have to travel great distances to access them through brick and mortar structures,” Schutte maintains.

    While Moss does not expect major job losses as a result of Popi, he worries that it may hinder innovation. “South Africa’s data laws are stricter than most countries in the world and make it very expensive to use information. This makes it very difficult to start a business that is reliant on information,” he says.

    “Under Popi, you could not start a Facebook, Google or Uber in South Africa. Technology is built around customisation and in order to customise, you need information.”

    • This piece was first published on Moneyweb and is used here with permission
    Follow TechCentral on Google News Add TechCentral as your preferred source on Google


    Blue Label Data Solutions Direct Marketing Association Direct Marketing Association of South Africa DMASA Michael Campbell Warren Moss
    WhatsApp YouTube
    Share. Facebook Twitter LinkedIn WhatsApp Telegram Email Copy Link
    Previous ArticleThrough a glass darkly
    Next Article Is your TV spying on you?

    Related Posts

    Spam phone calls in South Africa: how to stop (some of) them (maybe)

    7 April 2022

    Telkom faces R4bn Multi-Links damages claim

    22 November 2011

    Blue Label, Microsoft divorce goes ahead

    22 November 2011
    Company News
    Paratus Uganda first to market with Starlink service

    Paratus Uganda first to market with Starlink service

    21 August 2026
    Smarter operations take centre stage at Electra Mining Africa 2026

    Smarter operations take centre stage at Electra Mining Africa 2026

    20 August 2026
    Fidelity turns to Sigfox to spot fires before they start

    Fidelity turns to Sigfox to spot fires before they start

    19 August 2026
    Opinion
    The author, Jannie van Zyl

    Selling vapour is corporate suicide in slow motion

    16 July 2026
    Brazil's online gambling crackdown is a lesson for South Africa

    How Amazon outmanoeuvred Starlink in South Africa

    15 July 2026
    The Popia problem with agentic AI - Herman Haasbroek

    The Popia problem with agentic AI

    14 July 2026

    Subscribe to Updates

    Get the best South African technology news and analysis delivered to your e-mail inbox every morning.

    Latest Posts
    Cell C launches 5G

    Cell C launches 5G

    21 August 2026
    MVNOs are doing the heavy lifting at Cell C - Jorges Mendes

    MVNOs are doing the heavy lifting at Cell C

    21 August 2026
    Hot rand is cold comfort for tech buyers

    Hot rand is cold comfort for tech buyers

    21 August 2026
    Joburg says it has bought its way out of an Eskom blackout

    Joburg says it has bought its way out of an Eskom blackout

    21 August 2026
    © 2009 - 2026 NewsCentral Media
    Built and maintained by Chronon
    • Cookie policy (ZA)
    • TechCentral – privacy and Popia

    Type above and press Enter to search. Press Esc to cancel.

    Manage consent

    TechCentral uses cookies to enhance its offerings. Consenting to these technologies allows us to serve you better. Not consenting or withdrawing consent may adversely affect certain features and functions of the website.

    Functional Always active
    The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network.
    Preferences
    The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user.
    Statistics
    The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you.
    Marketing
    The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes.
    • Manage options
    • Manage services
    • Manage {vendor_count} vendors
    • Read more about these purposes
    View preferences
    • {title}
    • {title}
    • {title}