Close Menu
TechCentralTechCentral

    Subscribe to the newsletter

    Get the best South African technology news and analysis delivered to your e-mail inbox every morning.

    Facebook X (Twitter) YouTube LinkedIn
    WhatsApp Facebook X (Twitter) LinkedIn YouTube
    TechCentralTechCentral
    • News
      Gaping holes in South African government cyber defences

      Gaping holes in South African government cyber defences

      2 April 2026
      EV charging start-up Charge bypasses JSE for token-based raise - Joubert Roux

      EV charging start-up Charge bypasses JSE for token-based raise

      2 April 2026
      Ring, reject, repeat: South Africa's spam call crisis

      Ring, reject, repeat: South Africa’s spam call crisis

      2 April 2026
      Four astronauts begin humanity's return to the moon - Artemis II

      Four astronauts begin humanity’s return to the moon

      2 April 2026
      Sars to give every taxpayer a digital identity in sweeping tech overhaul

      Sars to give every taxpayer a digital identity in sweeping tech overhaul

      1 April 2026
    • World
      Amazon in talks to buy satellite operator Globalstar

      Amazon in talks to buy satellite operator Globalstar

      2 April 2026

      Apple plans to open Siri to rival AI services

      27 March 2026
      It's official: ads are coming to ChatGPT

      It’s official: ads are coming to ChatGPT

      23 March 2026
      Mystery Chinese AI model revealed to be Xiaomi's

      Mystery Chinese AI model revealed to be Xiaomi’s

      19 March 2026
      A mystery AI model has developers buzzing

      A mystery AI model has developers buzzing

      18 March 2026
    • In-depth
      The R18-billion tech giant hiding in plain sight - Jens Montanana

      The R16-billion tech giant hiding in plain sight

      26 March 2026
      The last generation of coders

      The last generation of coders

      18 February 2026
      Sentech is in dire straits

      Sentech is in dire straits

      10 February 2026
      How liberalisation is rewiring South Africa's power sector

      How liberalisation is rewiring South Africa’s power sector

      21 January 2026
      The top-performing South African tech shares of 2025

      The top-performing South African tech shares of 2025

      12 January 2026
    • TCS
      TCS | MTN's Divysh Joshi on the strategy behind Pi - Divyesh Joshi

      TCS | MTN’s Divyesh Joshi on the strategy behind Pi

      1 April 2026
      Anoosh Rooplal

      TCS | Anoosh Rooplal on the Post Office’s last stand

      27 March 2026
      Meet the CIO | HealthBridge CTO Anton Fatti on the future of digital health

      Meet the CIO | Healthbridge CTO Anton Fatti on the future of digital health

      23 March 2026
      TCS+ | Arctic Wolf unpacks the evolving threat landscape for SA businesses - Clare Loveridge and Jason Oehley

      TCS+ | Arctic Wolf unpacks the evolving threat landscape for SA businesses

      19 March 2026
      TCS+ | Vox Kiwi: a wireless solution promising a fibre-like experience - Theo van Zyl

      TCS+ | Vox Kiwi: a wireless solution promising a fibre-like experience

      13 March 2026
    • Opinion
      The conflict of interest at the heart of PayShap's slow adoption - Cheslyn Jacobs

      The conflict of interest at the heart of PayShap’s slow adoption

      26 March 2026
      South Africa's energy future hinges on getting wheeling right - Aishah Gire

      South Africa’s energy future hinges on getting wheeling right

      10 March 2026
      Hold the doom: the case for a South African comeback - Duncan McLeod

      Apple just dropped a bomb on the Windows world

      5 March 2026
      VC's centre of gravity is shifting - and South Africa is in the frame - Alison Collier

      VC’s centre of gravity is shifting – and South Africa is in the frame

      3 March 2026
      Hold the doom: the case for a South African comeback - Duncan McLeod

      Hold the doom: the case for a South African comeback

      26 February 2026
    • Company Hubs
      • 1Stream
      • Africa Data Centres
      • AfriGIS
      • Altron Digital Business
      • Altron Document Solutions
      • Altron Group
      • Arctic Wolf
      • Ascent Technology
      • AvertITD
      • BBD
      • Braintree
      • CallMiner
      • CambriLearn
      • CYBER1 Solutions
      • Digicloud Africa
      • Digimune
      • Domains.co.za
      • ESET
      • Euphoria Telecom
      • HOSTAFRICA
      • Incredible Business
      • iONLINE
      • IQbusiness
      • Iris Network Systems
      • Kaspersky
      • LSD Open
      • Mitel
      • NEC XON
      • Netstar
      • Network Platforms
      • Next DLP
      • Ovations
      • Paracon
      • Paratus
      • Q-KON
      • SevenC
      • SkyWire
      • Solid8 Technologies
      • Telit Cinterion
      • Telviva
      • Tenable
      • Vertiv
      • Videri Digital
      • Vodacom Business
      • Wipro
      • Workday
      • XLink
    • Sections
      • AI and machine learning
      • Banking
      • Broadcasting and Media
      • Cloud services
      • Contact centres and CX
      • Cryptocurrencies
      • Education and skills
      • Electronics and hardware
      • Energy and sustainability
      • Enterprise software
      • Financial services
      • HealthTech
      • Information security
      • Internet and connectivity
      • Internet of Things
      • Investment
      • IT services
      • Lifestyle
      • Motoring
      • Policy and regulation
      • Public sector
      • Retail and e-commerce
      • Satellite communications
      • Science
      • SMEs and start-ups
      • Social media
      • Talent and leadership
      • Telecoms
    • Events
    • Advertise
    TechCentralTechCentral
    Home » Sections » Investment » Tesla is a car company. Its stock is a meme

    Tesla is a car company. Its stock is a meme

    Tesla is a car company. Its stock is something else entirely.
    By Agency Staff3 February 2025
    Twitter LinkedIn Facebook WhatsApp Email Telegram Copy Link
    News Alerts
    WhatsApp

    Tesla is a car company. Its stock is a memeThis was an understandable reaction to Tesla’s latest set of results: “4Q miss on weak price/mix, outlook vague: stock trades up (is this a car company?).”

    That was Adam Jonas, Morgan Stanley’s motoring analyst, kicking off his report. The basic elements are all there: Tesla’s vehicle sales, pricing and margins were awful and CEO Elon Musk’s various pronouncements were characteristically vague. Yet the stock popped.

    Jonas concludes that this dismal quarter was “emblematic of a company in the transition from an automotive ‘pure play’ to a highly diversified play on AI and robotics”. The next day he cut 2025 forecasts for vehicle deliveries, pricing and margins, battery deliveries, and overall earnings. The price target was unchanged at US$430 (Tesla closed on Friday at about $404 with a market cap of $1.3-trillion).

    Dissonance between Tesla’s financials and stock price is hardly new, but it has reached new heights

    Dissonance between Tesla’s financials and stock price is hardly new, but it has reached new heights. Analysts tasked with covering a car company asking out loud if it is actually a car company signals how unmoored things have become.

    In one sense — and not a good one — Tesla isn’t a car company. I wrote here about the weakness of the latest earnings, what with big sales of zero-emission credits and a bitcoin gain. But factor in interest income on cash balances as well and you could be forgiven for thinking Tesla ended 2024 being more like a money manager specialising in crypto, green credits and treasuries with a sideline in making cars.

    Pivoted hard

    Except, of course, Tesla is a car company. Making and selling electric vehicles — plus selling the regulatory credits they generate and providing services like parts and EV charging — generated 90% of revenue and 85% of gross profit last year. Tesla’s energy storage arm has grown strongly but is still relatively small and the trend in its unit margins — down 30% in the past three quarters alone — suggests it must outrace the commodification that haunts any battery maker.

    The problem is that motoring stocks tend to trade on single-digit multiples rather than Tesla’s triple digits. Worse, Tesla’s car sales stopped growing last year (and Musk notably didn’t reiterate the 20-30% growth figure for 2025 he voiced all of three months ago). Assume 90% of next year’s consensus earnings figure is automotive-related and put a car premium multiple on it for kicks — say, the 49x sported by Ferrari, a company that has far higher margins. Even then, Tesla’s car business would be worth $133/share, a third of the current price.

    Read: From Cape Town to Kruger in a solar-powered Tesla

    Hence, only a year after hosting an entire day built around the promise of a vastly cheaper EV, Musk pivoted hard in 2024 not just to his existing robo-taxi narrative but also artificial intelligence and the Optimus humanoid robot — anything but (human-operated) cars, essentially. These are all internal projects rather than, as yet, actual businesses.

    Share prices look forward rather than back, so many would argue that despite terrible car sales results, Tesla’s vast valuation is justified by future profits on all the tech stuff. Bulls can point to Musk’s prior achievements, especially the mainstreaming of those EVs and his non-Tesla endeavors, notably SpaceX.

    Tesla Model 3

    But you generally discount projected cash flows to reflect the risks. Musk has achieved real things but his track record of making grandiose claims that don’t pan out or arrive very late is undeniable. Take autonomous vehicles, where Musk has been touting the imminent arrival of Teslas that could drive themselves coast to coast for the best part of a decade. This has not happened even as rival Waymo has launched actual robo-taxi services in several cities and is now reportedly ready to start testing in 10 more. Tesla bulls are, nonetheless, swooning over Musk saying, yet again, that a real robo-taxi service will arrive soon, in Austin — something that may or may not happen on time and is, in any case, vastly scaled back in ambition compared to prior pledges of robo-taxis everywhere.

    So how much discounting is going on? Not much. In another earnings reaction, Evercore ISI noted tactfully that analysing the quarterly numbers had become “increasingly problematic” because Tesla’s actual current businesses account for less than 40% of its market cap. Another way of saying it would be to call Tesla overvalued; and, to its credit, Evercore has a neutral rating and a price target of $275.

    If anything, Tesla’s stock is more akin to that other Trump-buoyed phenomenon, bitcoin; tethered to nothing but vibes

    Things are sunnier at RBC Capital, with a target of $440 and the equivalent of a “buy” rating. It values Tesla’s robo-taxi business at $879-billion by forecasting revenue in 2040, putting a 10x multiple on that, and then discounting back at a 7.5% rate. Consider that 2040 is as far away from today as 2010. A huge multiple of revenue and a 3% risk premium over 10-year treasury yields seems somewhat laid back.

    Indefatigable optimism is endemic. A year ago, 37% of analysts tracked by Bloomberg rated Tesla, which traded at 57x forward adjusted earnings, a “buy”. Since then, despite poor financial performance and a shifting strategy, the stock has more than doubled, all of which is owed to an expansion in the multiple to 140x. Yet today, 48% rate Tesla a “buy”.

    In a sense, many analysts are, like momentum-chasing investors, along for the ride rather than steering it. Price targets tend to follow, rather than set the direction, of Tesla’s price, although there was a decent correlation with earnings estimates for much of the past five years. The correlation weakened in 2024, however, breaking down completely after the election of Musk’s new friend, President Donald Trump.

    ‘Trump bump’

    Tesla is a car company. Its stock is something else entirely. The “Trump bump” captures this well, since the president clearly threatens the subsidies supporting Tesla’s cash flow but is seen as being possibly — if questionably — useful with regard to autonomous driving regulation. That vague option on the White House, which also incorporates related hopes of an enabled Musk leading a US revolution in AI and robotics, is currently valued at about half a trillion dollars, based on gains to date. If anything, Tesla’s stock is more akin to that other Trump-buoyed phenomenon, bitcoin; tethered to nothing but vibes. Tesla has actual cash flow, of course, but numbers don’t lie. Its main asset at this point is pure belief.  — Liam Denning, (c) 2025 Bloomberg LP

    Get breaking news from TechCentral on WhatsApp. Sign up here.

    Don’t miss:

    The latest financial results from Tesla are truly awful

    Follow TechCentral on Google News Add TechCentral as your preferred source on Google


    Elon Musk Tesla
    WhatsApp YouTube
    Share. Facebook Twitter LinkedIn WhatsApp Telegram Email Copy Link
    Previous ArticleDeep Research is OpenAI’s latest push into AI agents
    Next Article Online retail sales surged over the festive season

    Related Posts

    Starlink fires back after Namibia rejects licence bid

    Starlink fires back after Namibia rejects licence bid

    30 March 2026
    Namibia rejects Starlink

    Namibia rejects Starlink

    24 March 2026
    How Elon Musk's Hyperloop sucked up billions and delivered nothing

    How Elon Musk’s Hyperloop sucked up billions and delivered nothing

    22 March 2026
    Company News
    Synthesis helps financial enterprises transform with new Gemini Enterprise - Digicloud Africa

    Synthesis helps financial enterprises transform with new Gemini Enterprise

    2 April 2026
    The next churn wave is already in your contact centre conversations - CallMiner

    The next churn wave is already in your contact centre conversations

    2 April 2026
    Mining's problem isn't output, it's execution - Workday

    Mining’s problem isn’t output, it’s execution – Workday

    1 April 2026
    Opinion
    The conflict of interest at the heart of PayShap's slow adoption - Cheslyn Jacobs

    The conflict of interest at the heart of PayShap’s slow adoption

    26 March 2026
    South Africa's energy future hinges on getting wheeling right - Aishah Gire

    South Africa’s energy future hinges on getting wheeling right

    10 March 2026
    Hold the doom: the case for a South African comeback - Duncan McLeod

    Apple just dropped a bomb on the Windows world

    5 March 2026

    Subscribe to Updates

    Get the best South African technology news and analysis delivered to your e-mail inbox every morning.

    Latest Posts
    Gaping holes in South African government cyber defences

    Gaping holes in South African government cyber defences

    2 April 2026
    EV charging start-up Charge bypasses JSE for token-based raise - Joubert Roux

    EV charging start-up Charge bypasses JSE for token-based raise

    2 April 2026
    Ring, reject, repeat: South Africa's spam call crisis

    Ring, reject, repeat: South Africa’s spam call crisis

    2 April 2026
    Amazon in talks to buy satellite operator Globalstar

    Amazon in talks to buy satellite operator Globalstar

    2 April 2026
    © 2009 - 2026 NewsCentral Media
    • Cookie policy (ZA)
    • TechCentral – privacy and Popia

    Type above and press Enter to search. Press Esc to cancel.

    Manage consent

    TechCentral uses cookies to enhance its offerings. Consenting to these technologies allows us to serve you better. Not consenting or withdrawing consent may adversely affect certain features and functions of the website.

    Functional Always active
    The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network.
    Preferences
    The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user.
    Statistics
    The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you.
    Marketing
    The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes.
    • Manage options
    • Manage services
    • Manage {vendor_count} vendors
    • Read more about these purposes
    View preferences
    • {title}
    • {title}
    • {title}