Close Menu
TechCentralTechCentral

    Subscribe to the newsletter

    Get the best South African technology news and analysis delivered to your e-mail inbox every morning.

    Facebook X (Twitter) YouTube LinkedIn
    WhatsApp Facebook X (Twitter) LinkedIn YouTube
    TechCentralTechCentral
    • News
      Gigabit fibre arrives in Joburg township for R5/day - Alan Knott-Craig

      Gigabit fibre arrives in Joburg township for R5/day

      26 June 2026
      Standard Bank deal cuts the dollar out of China trade

      Standard Bank deal cuts the dollar out of China trade

      26 June 2026
      Starlink lines up a frontal assault on mobile operators

      Starlink lines up a frontal assault on mobile operators

      26 June 2026
      Vodacom bundles Amazon Prime across its post-paid base

      Vodacom bundles Amazon Prime across its post-paid base

      25 June 2026
      iPadOS 26

      Apple announces big iPad, MacBook price hikes

      25 June 2026
    • World

      SK Hynix ends Samsung’s 26-year reign at the top

      22 June 2026
      Google on the hook for what its AI tells users, court rules

      Google on the hook for what its AI tells users, court rules

      15 June 2026
      How Russians juggle VPNs to outwit the Kremlin

      How Russians juggle VPNs to outwit the Kremlin

      15 June 2026
      Amazon CEO flagged Anthropic AI risks to Washington - Andy Jassy

      Amazon CEO flagged Anthropic AI risks to Washington

      14 June 2026
      Trouble at Xbox

      Trouble at Xbox

      11 June 2026
    • In-depth
      AI boom sparks rally, frenzy and fear

      AI boom sparks rally, frenzy and fear

      11 June 2026
      Every plug-in hybrid on sale in South Africa, ranked by price - Lamborghini Temerario

      Every plug-in hybrid on sale in South Africa, ranked by price

      7 June 2026
      What Wi-Fi 8 will mean for wireless networks

      What Wi-Fi 8 will mean for wireless networks

      1 June 2026
      Alfa's electric rebel - Alfa Romeo Junior Elettrica Veloce

      Alfa’s electric rebel

      29 April 2026
      Africa switches on as Europe dims the lights

      Africa switches on as Europe dims the lights

      9 April 2026
    • TCS
      Watts & Wheels S1E6: 'A flawless Alfa and a bakkie that divides'

      Watts & Wheels S1E6: ‘A flawless Alfa and a bakkie that divides’

      17 June 2026
      Watts & Wheels S1E6: 'A flawless Alfa and a bakkie that divides'

      Watts & Wheels S1E5: ‘A Bentley of the bush and a car that swims’

      8 June 2026
      TCS | Charge's R1.8-billion bet on an off-grid EV future - Charge chairman Joubert Roux

      TCS | Charge’s R1.8-billion bet on an off-grid EV future

      18 May 2026
      TCS+ | The Up&Up Group on the hidden cost of AI - Jason Harrison

      TCS+ | The Up&Up Group on the hidden cost of AI

      13 May 2026
      Michael Rossouw

      TCS+ | The retirement decision most South Africans get wrong

      6 May 2026
    • Opinion
      The pivot South Africa's MVNOs cannot afford to miss

      The pivot South Africa’s MVNOs cannot afford to miss

      23 June 2026
      Brazil's online gambling crackdown is a lesson for South Africa

      Brazil’s online gambling crackdown is a lesson for South Africa

      22 June 2026
      Finish the job Mandela started - Farzam Ehsani

      Finish the job Mandela started

      18 June 2026
      The author, Fanie van Rooyen

      The US just showed it can switch off our AI

      17 June 2026
      The pivot South Africa's MVNOs cannot afford to miss

      The clock is ticking on South African banks’ biggest advantage

      9 June 2026
    • Company Hubs
      • 1Stream
      • Africa Data Centres
      • AfriGIS
      • Altron Digital Business
      • Altron Document Solutions
      • Altron Group
      • Arctic Wolf
      • Ascent Technology
      • AvertITD
      • BBD
      • Braintree
      • CallMiner
      • CambriLearn
      • CM Telecom
      • Contactable
      • CYBER1 Solutions
      • Digicloud Africa
      • Digimune
      • Domains.co.za
      • ESET
      • Euphoria Telecom
      • HOSTAFRICA
      • Incredible Business
      • iONLINE
      • IQbusiness
      • Iris Network Systems
      • Kaspersky
      • LSD Open
      • Mitel
      • NEC XON
      • Netstar
      • Network Platforms
      • Next DLP
      • Ovations
      • Paracon
      • Paratus
      • Q-KON
      • SevenC
      • SkyWire
      • Solid8 Technologies
      • Telit Cinterion
      • Telviva
      • Tenable
      • Vertiv
      • Videri Digital
      • Vodacom Business
      • Wipro
      • Workday
      • XLink
    • Sections
      • AI and machine learning
      • Banking
      • Broadcasting and Media
      • Cloud services
      • Contact centres and CX
      • Cryptocurrencies
      • Education and skills
      • Electronics and hardware
      • Energy and sustainability
      • Enterprise software
      • Financial services
      • HealthTech
      • Information security
      • Internet and connectivity
      • Internet of Things
      • Investment
      • IT services
      • Lifestyle
      • Motoring
      • Policy and regulation
      • Public sector
      • Retail and e-commerce
      • Satellite communications
      • Science
      • SMEs and start-ups
      • Social media
      • Talent and leadership
      • Telecoms
    • Events
    • Advertise
    TechCentralTechCentral
    Home » News » Vodacom, Makate to revive talks

    Vodacom, Makate to revive talks

    By Ray Mahlaka15 February 2017
    Twitter LinkedIn Facebook WhatsApp Email Telegram Copy Link
    News Alerts
    WhatsApp

    Nkosana Makate and telecommunications company Vodacom will now have to revive in good faith negotiations after a deadlock in talks to determine reasonable compensation for the “please call me” service.

    The dismissal of Makate’s latest application by the constitutional court on Friday, which sought to clarify last year’s groundbreaking order in Makate’s favour, paved the way for both parties to resume compensation negotiations for “please call me”.

    The court dismissed Makate’s application, which was filed in December last year, mainly on the basis that it has already dealt with the matter.

    Compensation negotiations, which began in September last year, have stalled and Makate has accused Vodacom of trying to renege on its obligation to pay him for the “please call me” idea.

    Makate approached the court again as the parties disagreed on the interpretation of the initial court order. He believes Vodacom owes him 15% of the revenue generated by “please call me” since its inception in 2001, while the company argued that it’s open to other methodologies to arrive at a reasonable compensation amount as opposed to revenue share. Makate estimated that the amount Vodacom owes him runs into millions of rand.

    Vodacom on Tuesday said it’s pleased with the decision handed down by the court. “Vodacom’s position has been consistent that the constitutional court order … is clear and unambiguous and directs the parties to negotiate in good faith to determine reasonable compensation,” said Vodacom spokesman Byron Kennedy.

    Makate said his negotiating team will pursue the aspect of an oral agreement in place between him and Vodacom’s former board member and director of product development and management Philip Geissler.

    When Makate was Vodacom’s trainee accountant in 2000, he approached his mentor, Lazarus Muchenje, about the “please call me” idea. Muchenje subsequently advised him to speak to Geissler. In an oral agreement, Geissler agreed that Makate would be paid a share of the revenues that Vodacom would generate from the innovation if it was technically and financially viable.

    The oral agreement was recognised by the constitutional court in April last year and ordered that Vodacom was bound by it.

    “Please call me”, which allows a cellphone user without airtime to send a free message requesting to be called back, was a game changer for South Africa’s then fledgling telecommunications sector, as it would increase traffic to mobile operators.

    In its court papers responding to Makate’s application in January, Vodacom revealed that it didn’t have the records to show the revenue generated by “please call me” as it was never treated in its income statement as a revenue-generating product.

    Vodacom also argued that it was unclear which calls were induced by a “please call me” message and which were not — making it difficult to determine what does and doesn’t qualify as revenue generated by the idea.

    However, Makate rejected this and said that Vodacom has substantial financial records required to determine how much it owes him for the idea.

    His application was supported by Andrew Hendricks, who was employed by Vodacom in various financial roles between 2001 and 2014. Hendricks said due to his knowledge of Vodacom’s financial agreements with service providers, the company is able to calculate the total revenue per product and then determine the revenue share component.

    Years after “please call me” was launched, its messages included advertising campaigns. Hendricks said Vodacom also knows how much advertising revenue is generated from the ads attached to “please call me” messages — inferring that this might be included in Makate’s payout.

    • This article was originally published on Moneyweb and is used here with permission
    • See also: New twist in ‘please call me’ saga
    Follow TechCentral on Google News Add TechCentral as your preferred source on Google


    Lazarus Muchenje Nkosana Makate Philip Geissler Vodacom
    WhatsApp YouTube
    Share. Facebook Twitter LinkedIn WhatsApp Telegram Email Copy Link
    Previous ArticleBlackBerry files patent suit against Nokia
    Next Article IS in big Wi-Fi push in Africa

    Related Posts

    Vodacom bundles Amazon Prime across its post-paid base

    Vodacom bundles Amazon Prime across its post-paid base

    25 June 2026
    Absa's silence and the MVNO move no bank has made

    Absa’s silence and the banking MVNO move no one has tried

    24 June 2026
    Have your say on the bill that could reshape SA telecoms

    Have your say on the bill that could reshape SA telecoms

    23 June 2026
    Company News
    Kaspersky's blueprint for industrial cyber resilience

    Kaspersky’s blueprint for industrial cyber resilience

    25 June 2026
    The spaza is not informal - it is foundational - Lesaka Technologies Lincoln Mali

    The spaza is not informal – it is foundational

    24 June 2026
    A smarter way to buy or renew your Red Hat subscriptions - LSD Open

    A smarter way to buy or renew your Red Hat subscriptions

    22 June 2026
    Opinion
    The pivot South Africa's MVNOs cannot afford to miss

    The pivot South Africa’s MVNOs cannot afford to miss

    23 June 2026
    Brazil's online gambling crackdown is a lesson for South Africa

    Brazil’s online gambling crackdown is a lesson for South Africa

    22 June 2026
    Finish the job Mandela started - Farzam Ehsani

    Finish the job Mandela started

    18 June 2026

    Subscribe to Updates

    Get the best South African technology news and analysis delivered to your e-mail inbox every morning.

    Latest Posts
    Gigabit fibre arrives in Joburg township for R5/day - Alan Knott-Craig

    Gigabit fibre arrives in Joburg township for R5/day

    26 June 2026
    Standard Bank deal cuts the dollar out of China trade

    Standard Bank deal cuts the dollar out of China trade

    26 June 2026
    Starlink lines up a frontal assault on mobile operators

    Starlink lines up a frontal assault on mobile operators

    26 June 2026
    Vodacom bundles Amazon Prime across its post-paid base

    Vodacom bundles Amazon Prime across its post-paid base

    25 June 2026
    © 2009 - 2026 NewsCentral Media
    Built and maintained by Chronon
    • Cookie policy (ZA)
    • TechCentral – privacy and Popia

    Type above and press Enter to search. Press Esc to cancel.

    Manage consent

    TechCentral uses cookies to enhance its offerings. Consenting to these technologies allows us to serve you better. Not consenting or withdrawing consent may adversely affect certain features and functions of the website.

    Functional Always active
    The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network.
    Preferences
    The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user.
    Statistics
    The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you.
    Marketing
    The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes.
    • Manage options
    • Manage services
    • Manage {vendor_count} vendors
    • Read more about these purposes
    View preferences
    • {title}
    • {title}
    • {title}